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Bayou Bar & Grill / Rupert's Wing Inn / Crazy Zack's / Clydes Sportsbar N Grill / This, That 'n' The Other Caribbean Restaurant, 948 Harden Street / 950 Harden Street: 1999   21 comments

Posted at 12:55 am in Uncategorized

Actually, I don't remember this place as a Caribbean restaurant at all, but that's what google is turning up for it. Apparently it was an attempt at doing well by doing good, as this 1999 ABC permit hearing decision notes:

This matter is before the South Carolina Administrative Law Judge Division ("Division") pursuant to an application filed by Charlotte Francis, M.D., owner of This, That 'n' The Other Homeless Ministries, d/b/a This, That 'n' The Other ("Petitioner"). Petitioner made application with the South Carolina Department of Revenue ("Respondent" or "Department") for an on-premises beer and wine permit and a sale and consumption (minibottle) license. Representatives in support of, as well as in opposition to the application rendered testimony at the hearing.
This, That 'n' The Other's meal service is two-fold. Lunch and dinner service is provided to the general public at the restaurant, and the same is provided in a community outreach capacity. The restaurant provides meals to the homeless patrons of local churches and shelters.

The permit was granted despite some misgivings by a neighbor business, but as far as I can tell, the restaurant did not last long at all. I have not verified that by any phonebook research, but note that the only "Five Points Association Member Sticker" in the window is for 1999. The building certainly has not seen much if any work since then, and appears to be in a fairly advanced state of disrepair.

Now, despite not finding any online evidence for it, what I remember this place as is some sort of night club which used the roof as a deck. You can see the hutch that presumably terminates a staircase from the ground floor, and the roof is also directly accessible from the side street as the building is more or less cut into a hillside. I can remember thinking that it was pretty neat though I never visited the club.

I did find this 1998 zoning board minutes which implies that the place was some sort of restaurant in 1990 which was forclosed on at some later point, but no other details are offered..

I think I also remember some sort of drumming studio here as well.

UPDATE 23 May 2010: Based on the comments, looked up Clydes and added that to the post title, as well as an ad from the Feb 1995-96 Bellsouth phonebook.

UPDATE 30 September 2011 -- Someone is working on the place:

UPDATE 23 December 2011 -- Work continues. Note that the rooftop access stairway hutch has been demolished:

UPDATE 23 March 2012: Added a bunch of names in the post title based on the comments.

UPDATE 5 May 2012 -- The renovations seem to be complete:


Written by ted on May 20th, 2010

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  1. Oh, my.... this used to be Clyde's. Discuss...
    Fugazi played here in '96. Do a internet search of Fugzai and Clyde's, and it will find it.
    Didn't Crazy Zach's move from (the now) California Dreaming to here in the mid 80s?

    Midnight Rambler

    20 May 10 at 9:01 am

  2. Immediately before Clyde's, this was Rupert's Wing Inn. Rupert's moved from Rosewood, right beside the old Rockaway's, to this location.


    20 May 10 at 9:32 am

  3. This was also a Jamaican restaurant at one point.


    20 May 10 at 9:48 am

  4. Just curious as to how many times you got asked for money while taking these photos?


    21 May 10 at 12:37 am

  5. Heh. Actually it's been a couple of years since I've been PHed in Five Points. My impression is that it's a bit better the last few years though I still keep a weather eye out.

    Thinking on it, I believe the only time I've been hit up doing closings pictures was here.

    (Hmm, I mention in that link '2' times, but I can't remember the other right now).


    21 May 10 at 12:57 am

  6. There was an interesting letter to the editor in “Free Times” about this restaurant some years ago. I can’t do it justice but basically, the story went:
    A group of five met for dinner.
    The orders were taken.
    Someone from the kitchen goes outside, comes back with a bag of groceries from Food Lion.
    Then nothing.
    Then, again, someone from the kitchen steps outside, comes back with another bag of groceries from Food Lion.
    Lather, rinse, repeat.
    First person gets served.
    Some long time later, second person gets served. And so on.
    By the time was getting served, the first person had already finished.
    One of the other complains was that someone had ordered some steak, and the writer referred to it as a “one-eighth inch thick cut of beef.” He told the manager that he thought he got the wrong order, and the manager told him, “No, that’s the way it’s supposed to look.”


    21 May 10 at 8:44 am

  7. I got panhandled one night in the Circle K parking lot, probably 15 years ago. I didnt have any cash. As a matter of fact, the reason i was in the parking lot to begin with was that i had forgotten my wallet and i was waiting for my brother to bring it to me, while my "friends" (AKA the guys who wouldnt bring me home to get my wallet even though the club they were going to wouldnt let me in without my ID) partied it up without me.

    Anyway, this guy asks me for some change, and i dont have any, and he moves on.

    The next day, im driving over to my other friends house over by Richland Fashion Mall, and im sitting at a stop light on Taylor Street, windows down, and the SAME EXACT DUDE walks up to my car and is all like "Heyyy i know were at the Circle K last night. Got any change now?"

    And i used to keep a plastic cup of change in that car and i was so stunned that i gave him most of it.

    True story.


    22 May 10 at 8:02 pm

  8. LMAO. Good story IrmoJeff.


    23 May 10 at 6:41 pm

  9. Fugazi played at a sports bar?! Super weird -- I thought they only played all ages venues. But you're right; it's on all the lists of their shows.


    25 May 10 at 9:37 pm

  10. I don't know what kind of "Sportsbar" Clyde's was, but I've certainly seen kids in a number of places with that label.

    (here, for instance.)


    25 May 10 at 10:05 pm

  11. Wow, haven't heard or thought about Fugazi in ages! And Midnight Rambler, when I started college back in Fall of 1988, Crazy Zack's was in at least part of that location if not all of it.


    8 Jul 10 at 2:49 pm

  12. Clyde's was a great place to eat, drink, and watch sports. There was the bar area with pool tables and tv's. The main dining area also had a stage where bands would perform. The roof did have tables and barstools to hang out. There might even have been a temporary bar up there as well. I had some friends that bartended there, so a group of us would meet up there for wings and drink quite often.
    The Jamacian place was always run down looking. I never went there after Clyde's closed.
    I went oCrazy Zach's a few times in high school, as they did not care what you showed them for an id as long as you showed them something. I met USC wide receiver Sterling Sharp as he was getting out of his BMW in the Food Lion parking lot across the street. Who has a BMW in college...oh yeah, star football players.


    26 May 11 at 2:20 pm

  13. I didn't know that about the This, That & The Other doing the outreach stuff - goes in line with I believe the owner being ex-Peace Corps or something. That said, I ate there once and had a similar experience to the Free Times report, very unimpressed. I think they had a place out on 378 at one time, which was much better (and the reason I tried them in Five Points). That place, I took one of my friends to, a Jamaican guy I worked with, and introduced him to Dave's Insanity Sauce. I told him to be careful, and he gave me this macho, "I am Ja-mai-CAN!" spiel. I think you see it coming - he was draining at the eyes in seconds!


    26 Aug 11 at 2:58 pm

  14. Before this was Clyde's is was Rupert's. Before it was Rupert's it was Crazy Zack's. Crazy Zack's moved into this building from the old train station that is now California Dreaming (PLEASE do a post on Crazy Zack's!).


    21 Mar 12 at 5:18 pm

  15. Around 2002 this place was Bayou Bar & Grill.


    22 Mar 12 at 7:08 am

  16. I used to hang out in here when Rupert's was there. Then it rolled over as Clyde's. Went to go see bands play here sometimes. It was too far from 5 points proper and the walk could be dangerous at night.


    22 Mar 12 at 4:16 pm

  17. OK, I've added those names to the post title..


    23 Mar 12 at 12:37 am

  18. My dad bought this place shortly after it became Clyde's. Terry Evans 1952-2012 was a musician that bought this place with the intention of becoming a music venue. This appears to be real estate site but I have tones of information on this place. I have an email at gmail with the user name of jevans312 if you would like newspaper clippings, pictures etc.


    24 Nov 12 at 4:03 am

  19. Well, I've certainly never thought of it as a real estate site, though mosts posts do have a street address. I'll certainly try to drop you a note.


    25 Nov 12 at 6:19 pm

  20. Me and 4 of my friends partied here once in 1988 when it was Crazy Sacks. (All of us underage) When leaving we were confronted by undercover officer in Food Lion parking lot and he checked all our Id's. He was none to happy but let us go after a stern lecture as we had a desg drvr. Cool officer! They were shut dwn shortly after that.


    6 Apr 18 at 10:28 am

  21. Back in the early 80s, I went to Crazy Zacks when it was located in the train station. It was a loud, happening' college nightclub. No or low cover charge, great music, pretty coeds, lotsa dancing! Their playlist seemed to be heavy on high-energy rock 'n roll, which was a nice change from other clubs that wouldn't stray from a top-40 format.

    There was a lot of security at the club & they each carried a black cop flashlight that was actually a metal beatdown stick disguised as a flashlight. An effective deterrence to excess rowdiness.

    When it was time to close, the dj would always play Sinatra's New York New York.

    The logo for Zack's was a drawing of a dog with his leg up, urinating.

    In the later 80s, Zacks moved out of the train station and California Dreamin' moved in.

    As far as California Dreamin' went, the food was good but the theme was all wrong. If you want a realistic SoCal theme, mount lots of skateboards on the walls, place a food truck in the middle of the restaurant, and have homeless people hang around outside.


    21 Apr 20 at 6:08 pm

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